should a lady be allowed to bloodshed (ie: qama zani)

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YA ALI A.S MADAD

SHOULD A WOMEN BE ALLOWED TO BLOODSHED IN PARTICULAR (QAMA ZANI)????


PLEASE GIVE YOUR THOUGHTS AND VIEWS

thats right.....my persona view is the same as urs.........

ppl nw days r against ladies doing qama zani and refer to it as 'haram' but wen u ask a reason they cannot give one......jus the fact u shudnt and then dnt argue with elders lool

n e ways


ALI HAQ HAIDER

yes she does and the hadith i was given i follow that...if BIBI ZAINAB S.A has bloodsheded from her head ladies should be allowed to do qam zani in the grief of AHLE BAYT A.S

its Wright Brothres And Sisters.

On The Youm-e-Ashoor

All Women Doing A Matam With Mountains.When See The Yazeedi Army(Lanat) They Tow The Hands Behind The Neck.

They Can Do.

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It has been reported that when Bibi Hind (r.a)
came to Zindan e Shaam (the jail of Damaskus, Syria) and saw the Head of Maula
Hussain (a.s) she was deeply saddened. Because of the grief she took a stone off
the ground and hit Her head with that stone and as a result of that She fainted.
When she got up again, Bibi Zainab (s.a) told Her, “Oh Hind, get up and go
home, I am scared that your husband Yazeed (l.a) will commit atrocities
on you.“ Bibi Hind (r.a) replied, “I will not move a single step until I do
not do Matam for my Lord Hussain (a.s) and until I do not cry enough and until I
bring You (Bibi Zainab s.a) and the other Shahzaadiyan (s.a) (Princesses)
home.“

(Ref: Sogh Nama Aal e Muhammad, p. 134)

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When the grand daughter of the Prophet (saws) was brought into the city of
Kufa as prisoner her calamity became more severe. When she saw the head
of Imam (as) on the pointed end of lance, she stroke her head on the
wooden part of the saddle in extreme grief and blood started flowing
from her head.

- Al Bidaya wa Al Nihaya Volume 8 page 93
- Tareekh Kamil Volume 4 page 42
- Tareekh Tabarai volume 7 page 370
- Bihaar al-Anwaar; volume 45, page 114,
- Jalaa’ al-‘Oyun; volume 2, page 238,
- Zaynab al-Kubra; page 112,
- Asraar al-Shahadah; page 474,
- Al-Muntakhab; volume 2, page 478,
- Nusrat-ul-Madhlum; page 18.

Needless to say that Baqir al-Majlisi – compiler of Bihaar al-Anwaar – and
Sheikh al-Shari’ah al-Isfahani have confirmed the authenticity of the
report. You may find further information here.http://imamshirazi.com/tatbir%20fatawa.html




This might help. Ya Ali Madad

thnks azadaar110 was waitin for u to say sutin!

fair enough, one thing though, is there a hadith that simply says women can do matham by the aima (saw)

do we have any hadiths that aima (saw) say do matham?
would be god to see both types of hadiths thank you

A better question would be, are there any Ahadith prohibiting ladies from doing matham or bloodletting?

sila_warrior110 you said no to it? as in no women are not allowed to
bloodshed? or was that no to there are no hadiths, also you mention quran, where does nit tell you that it is wrong, please share brother, very interesting

also the ultimate 2 questions are, are there any hadiths saying it is not allowed and are there any that are saying its allowed? lol

Brother alialiali,

Not saying you do in any way but your question is similar to those who oppose Zanjeerzani and bloodletting by asking for a hadith in which any of our Aima (As) have done Zanjeer.

As per Surah Al Maaida 3: Islam is perfect and complete; 6:38: Neither has anything been neglected from this book (Al-Quran)...

So in this perfect and complete religion where everything that needs to be mentioned HAS been mentioned, where does it state any such act is haram or even undesirable? The question itself of ''where the hadith allowing such and such'' is wrong, the question being asked should be ''is there anything prohibiting such and such''.

Sister azadaar110 has provided you with 2 ahadith proving the permissibility of blood letting for ladies. If one has any hadith in contradiction to the above then please post them so that we may learn from them!

P.s. Brother Silat was stating no such hadith exist prohibiting ladies to take place in such an act of Ibadah.

Maual (As) waris

azadaar e mazloom

thankyou brother, no im not against blood letting or zanjeer,

im just against women, i not sure but even theres these 3 girls that come on tv somtimes reading nohay, come on women,,,,, how far are they going to go.
some opinions i've heard and make allot of sense, some nohay that men recite, they chant bibis (saw) name from their na paak mouths, espcially the non-syeds, did any man dare to speak of bibis (saw) name while in their presence or maulas (saw) presence? wel these shias of today need to know bibi (saw) is here maula (saw) is here, so watch your mouths.

sorry if i offended peple, its an opinion, what you guys think of this

ummm y r u against women! :S
i understand ur point of being seen a lot now days but because of some other women u cnt really hate every other....and its not a bad thing that they come on tv and recite but that has its plus and negatives..

positive bein they r in hijab....

negative bein ur point

but again wat stops a women from bloodshedin in GHUM E HUSSAIN...

we have been given 2 hadith by a fellow sister on here which tell us it is permissible to shed blood....?
and u being against women dsnt mean dat dey cannot do qama zani or overall shed blood....

sorry user alialiali with all due respect u sound soo negative


ALI HAQ HAIDER

I mean we can not deny if a hadith is presant, but the only hadith we have actually ALLOW ladies to participate in this Ibadah.

I know you weren't against it alialiali

hello guys, lol, they are hadiths, mashallah, alhumdulillah,
so it's ok for women.

i don't know maybe im just jealous that women are allowed to do this too lol. But i agree with it too.

It would again be interesting to see why some shias say it's haram, as haram is a big thing. But i guess we will never get anyone who will say this, either we are unfortunate for the lack of knowledge about why they say its haram, or either, ones who say its haram are lost without proof.

ok im sorry but brother u soud like a anti women or eve sexist guy....lol

hadith r there for us to do amal o so i thik you shud just accept them...and live wiv the fact WOMEN CAN DO QAMA ZANI!!

and if it jealousy plzzz dnt let dat cum in ur way..lol

but thnks for contributin to the topic!

Brother AliAliAli (awesome name!),

What are you jealous for? Lol, why don't you just do it yourself too?

syed good point! thnks