sahih isnaad, ghalat hadeeth

salam

ba tohfa ya ali madad

first let me give u what hadeeth says
it tells us about the time when queen of all worlds bibi fatima was
getting married and her rukhsati was performed, and hazrat asma bin
umais was there as well, and prophet asws prayed for her part in the
ceremony

now, first i will quote ahadeeth from majma uz zawaid
we find
http://www.al-eman.com/Islamlib/view...272&CID=138#s4

now, read the last sentence and you will realize that it is saying that
rijal are rijal of sahih hadeeth

let me show another source of this hadeeth
it is from khasais amir ul momineen, by nisai


( and this is the foot note mentioned

http://www.haydarya.com/maktaba_mokt...book_20/31.htm

the sanad is very good again
like we see

ibn hajar says about him in tehzeeb

قال النسائي ثقة وقال أبو حاتم صدوق وذكره بن حبان في الثقات

so he is thiqa

next is

and ibn hajar said that he was narrator of
البخاري ومسلم والترمذي والنسائي

and the views are
قال بن أبي خيثمة عن بن معين ثقة
قال العجلي ثقة وذكره بن حبان في الثقات

so he is narrator of sahihain
and thiqa

next is
ibn hajar quotes important opinions about him


وقال الجعد أبو عثمان سمعت الحسن يقول أيوب سيد شباب أهل البصرة وقال أبو
الوليد عن شعبة حدثني أيوب وكان سيد الفقهاء

and

وقال بن خيثمة عنه ثقة

and

وقال بن سعد كان ثقة ثبتا في الحديث جامعا كثير العلم حجة عدلا وقال أبو
حاتم هو أحب إلي في كل شيء من خالد الحذاء وهو ثقة لا يسأل عن مثله وهو
أكبر من سليمان وقال النسائي ثقة ثبت


so he is thiqa

next is
ibn hajar wrote in taqreeb


8452- أبو يزيد المدني نزيل البصرة مقبول من الرابعة خ س


so he is accepted

and finally
asma bin umais who is sahabia
and well known


qari faizi quotes this hadeeth with good sanad in his sharah of khasais
on page 603, and says

this sanad was accepted as sahih by

1-daktoor abdulghaffar sulaiman al bindari and syed kasrwa hassan in
ther research on sunan-ul-kubra
2-abu ishaq haveeni al athari in his takhreej "al-hilli ba takhreej
khasais ali"
3-wasiullah bin mohammad abbass in fadail us sahaba, vol 2.

but what is the problem with this hadeeth

well

asma was at that time in habsha with her husband hazrat jaffar tayyar
how can she be present then?

qari faizi quoted ibn hajar in his sharah on page 605
and said that
ibn hajar tried to solve this puzzle and said

"i say that all the narrators of this hadeeth are thiqa, but asma bin
umais was in habsha at that time with hazrat jafar, and there is no
difference in this regard. SO MAY BE this was her sister salma bint
umais and she was wife of hazrat hamza bin motallab"
[المطالب العالية بزوائد المسانيد الثمانية ابن حجر العسقلاني]

so, we see that even ibn hajar is not sure about this all
and he used the word
MAY BE.

so a sahih isnaad hadeeth resulting in confusion



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