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narrators of bukhari
assalamoallaikom
ba tohfa ya ali madad
let me mention some of the narrators of bukhari
now
the first narrator i would like to mention is
ثور بن يزيد بن زياد الكلاعي
ibn hajar writes about him in his tehzeeb
قال بن سعد كان ثقة في الحديث ويقال أنه كان قدريا وكان جده قتل يوم صفين
مع معاوية فكان ثور إذا ذكر عليا قال لا أحب رجلا قتل جدي
ibn saad said that he was thiqa in hadeeth, and it is said that he was
qudri in religion, and his forefather was killed in sifeen alongwith
mawia, and therefore whenever ali was discussed, he said i do not love
some one who had killed my forefather
similarly, we find
وقال عثمان الدارمي عن دحيم ثور بن يزيد ثقة وما رأيت أحدا يشك أنه قدري
وهو صحيح الحديث
so usman darmi said that he was thiqa, and no one ever doubted that he
was not a qudria
وقال يعقوب بن سفيان سمعت أحمد بن صالح وذكر رجال الشام فقال وثور بن يزيد
ثقة إلا أنه كان يرى القدر
same views are of ahmad bin salih who termed him thiqa, but qurdria
we find more that
كانوا يجلسون ويسبون علي بن أبي طالب
whenever he would sit, he would abuse ali asws
now, we find that he was qudria, and qudria have been cursed by none
other than our beloved prophet asws.
and love of ali asws was sign of momin, and grudge against him was sign
of monafiq
and we also find that he would abuse ali asws
and we read
قال ابو جعفر التستري: سمعت أبا زرعة يقول : إذا رأيت الرجل ينتقص أحدًا من
أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فاعلم انه زنديق .تهذيب الكمال ج
19 ص96
abu zara said that when i see some one doing tanqeez of any of the
companions of prophet asws, i come to know that he is zindeeq.
so we also come to know that thor bin yazeed is zindeeq, monafiq
and beloved narrator of bukhari
inshallah, i will write about more narrators
take care
ali ali
har dam ali
ba tohfa ya ali madad
let me mention some of the narrators of bukhari
now
the first narrator i would like to mention is
ثور بن يزيد بن زياد الكلاعي
ibn hajar writes about him in his tehzeeb
قال بن سعد كان ثقة في الحديث ويقال أنه كان قدريا وكان جده قتل يوم صفين
مع معاوية فكان ثور إذا ذكر عليا قال لا أحب رجلا قتل جدي
ibn saad said that he was thiqa in hadeeth, and it is said that he was
qudri in religion, and his forefather was killed in sifeen alongwith
mawia, and therefore whenever ali was discussed, he said i do not love
some one who had killed my forefather
similarly, we find
وقال عثمان الدارمي عن دحيم ثور بن يزيد ثقة وما رأيت أحدا يشك أنه قدري
وهو صحيح الحديث
so usman darmi said that he was thiqa, and no one ever doubted that he
was not a qudria
وقال يعقوب بن سفيان سمعت أحمد بن صالح وذكر رجال الشام فقال وثور بن يزيد
ثقة إلا أنه كان يرى القدر
same views are of ahmad bin salih who termed him thiqa, but qurdria
we find more that
كانوا يجلسون ويسبون علي بن أبي طالب
whenever he would sit, he would abuse ali asws
now, we find that he was qudria, and qudria have been cursed by none
other than our beloved prophet asws.
and love of ali asws was sign of momin, and grudge against him was sign
of monafiq
and we also find that he would abuse ali asws
and we read
قال ابو جعفر التستري: سمعت أبا زرعة يقول : إذا رأيت الرجل ينتقص أحدًا من
أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فاعلم انه زنديق .
19 ص96
abu zara said that when i see some one doing tanqeez of any of the
companions of prophet asws, i come to know that he is zindeeq.
so we also come to know that thor bin yazeed is zindeeq, monafiq
and beloved narrator of bukhari
inshallah, i will write about more narrators
take care
ali ali
har dam ali
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Re: narrators of bukhari
assalamoallaikom
now, next one in the list is
عمران ابن حطان
first, we see that ibn hajar wrote about him in taqreeb
so he was termed sudooq, but it is clearly written that he was khariji
and as per tehzeeb, bukhari, nisai and abu daood took ahadeeth from him
and the level of his kharajiat can be see from the fact that he uttered
these words at the time of death of mola ali asws
يا ضربة من تقي ما أراد بها ** ألا ليبلغ من ذي العرش رضوانا
إني لأذكره يومًا فأحسبه ** أوفى البرية عند الله ميزانا
so termed that darbat as the act of taqwa, and that it would reach
the arsh and he would discuss it on the day of judgment and that it
would be the best in meezan
i took these from al-asaba fi tameez sahaba,
and it is because of this that ibn hajar wrote in al-asaba
وكان من رءوس الخوارج
he was amongst the chiefs of kharajis
here is the link for al-asaba
http://www.al-eman.com/Islamlib/view...BID=397&CID=71
more to come inshallah on other narrators, including those mentioned by
brother
take care
now, next one in the list is
عمران ابن حطان
first, we see that ibn hajar wrote about him in taqreeb
5152- عمران ابن حطان بكسر الحاء وتشديد الطاء
المهملتين السدوسي صدوق إلا
أنه كان على مذهب الخوارج ويقال رجع عن ذلك من الثالثة مات [قبل
المائة] سنة أربع وثمانين خ د س
المهملتين السدوسي صدوق إلا
أنه كان على مذهب الخوارج ويقال رجع عن ذلك من الثالثة مات [قبل
المائة] سنة أربع وثمانين خ د س
so he was termed sudooq, but it is clearly written that he was khariji
and as per tehzeeb, bukhari, nisai and abu daood took ahadeeth from him
and the level of his kharajiat can be see from the fact that he uttered
these words at the time of death of mola ali asws
يا ضربة من تقي ما أراد بها ** ألا ليبلغ من ذي العرش رضوانا
إني لأذكره يومًا فأحسبه ** أوفى البرية عند الله ميزانا
the arsh and he would discuss it on the day of judgment and that it
would be the best in meezan
i took these from al-asaba fi tameez sahaba,
and it is because of this that ibn hajar wrote in al-asaba
وكان من رءوس الخوارج
he was amongst the chiefs of kharajis
here is the link for al-asaba
http://www.al-eman.com/Islamlib/view...BID=397&CID=71
more to come inshallah on other narrators, including those mentioned by
brother
take care
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Re: narrators of bukhari
Ya Ali Madad brother
By Qudria do you mean the Qadariya mutazila sect who believes everything that happens is done by mans own power and there is no destiny or fate?
Could you also clarify the meaning of zindeeq? Is it someone who professes (claims) to be a muslim but trys and distorts Islamic beliefs to his secret non muslim views?
I hope my questions are not too simple for you brother ghulam ali.
(Please can you put in romanicised text for the arabic as not everyone can read arabic text) Thank you brother and may Mola(as) reward you for all your dilligent and hard work.
By Qudria do you mean the Qadariya mutazila sect who believes everything that happens is done by mans own power and there is no destiny or fate?
Could you also clarify the meaning of zindeeq? Is it someone who professes (claims) to be a muslim but trys and distorts Islamic beliefs to his secret non muslim views?
I hope my questions are not too simple for you brother ghulam ali.
(Please can you put in romanicised text for the arabic as not everyone can read arabic text) Thank you brother and may Mola(as) reward you for all your dilligent and hard work.
Re: narrators of bukhari
Rational Mind wrote:Ya Ali Madad brother
By Qudria do you mean the Qadariya mutazila sect who believes everything that happens is done by mans own power and there is no destiny or fate?
Could you also clarify the meaning of zindeeq? Is it someone who professes (claims) to be a muslim but trys and distorts Islamic beliefs to his secret non muslim views?
I hope my questions are not too simple for you brother ghulam ali.
(Please can you put in romanicised text for the arabic as not everyone can read arabic text) Thank you brother and may Mola(as) reward you for all your dilligent and hard work.
salam
yes, you are right about qudria
for zindiq, read this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zind%C4%ABq
and sorry, i may not be able to give u arabic in roman
the main reason is that i have to work on some more narrators
hope you wont mind that
sorry again
next narrator is some one who is cursed by none other than umar
we find in masnad imam ahmad bin hanbal
165 حدثنا سفيان، عن
عمرو، عن طاوس، عن ابن عباس، ذكر لعمر أن سمرة، وقال، مرة بلغ عمر رضي
الله عنه أن سمرة باع خمرا قال قاتل الله سمرة إن رسول الله صلى الله عليه
وسلم قال لعن الله اليهود حرمت عليهم الشحوم فجملوها فباعوها.
http://www.al-eman.com/hadeeth/viewchp.asp?BID=3&CID=3#s1
this hadeeth can also be located in sahih muslim
we find
Book
010, Number 3842:
Ibnhttp://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/muslim/010.smt.html
Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) reported: This news reached ‘Umar that Samura had sold wine, whereupon he said: May
Allah destroy Samura; does he not know that Allah’s Messenger (may
peace be upon him) said:” Let there be the curse of Allah upon the Jews
that fat was declared forbidden for them, but they melted it and then
sold it”?
bukhari could not skip the hadeeth for its strong sanad
and had to protect him
so he did tehreef
and he wrote it like
Volume 3, Book 34, Number 426:
Narratedhttp://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/034.sbt.html
Ibn ‘Abbas:
Once ‘Umar was
informed that a certain man sold alcohol.
‘Umar said, “May Allah curse him! Doesn’t he know that Allah’s
Apostle said, ‘May Allah curse the Jews, for Allah had forbidden
them to eat the fat of animals but they melted it and sold it.”
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Re: narrators of bukhari
salam
i had written this before in my this article where i mentioned hadeeth of samura as well
http://ahlubait.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/biased-bukhari-2/
i had written this before in my this article where i mentioned hadeeth of samura as well
http://ahlubait.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/biased-bukhari-2/
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