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Re: Ameen
by Rational Mind Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:17 pm
Amin/Ameen is a name/title denoting someone as trustworthy, truthful and reliable.
Ie Sadiq ul ameen meaning truthful and trustworthy.
As for the sunni's reading it in namaz after sura al fateha....there is no discernable reason as to why they do it, neither is there any proof from religious texts that it should be done. It is a biddah which invalidates prayers.
Ie Sadiq ul ameen meaning truthful and trustworthy.
As for the sunni's reading it in namaz after sura al fateha....there is no discernable reason as to why they do it, neither is there any proof from religious texts that it should be done. It is a biddah which invalidates prayers.
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Re: Ameen
by ahmedlondon Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:04 pm
I was told by other shias the origin is from an egyptian sun god... hmm
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Re: Ameen
by Rational Mind Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:08 pm
i dont think so. the egyptian sun god was Ra or later Horato.
Amin lexically and phentically has no links to that.
Amin is from the arabic lexicon and has been a common used term in arabic and the quran with that meaning.
Amin lexically and phentically has no links to that.
Amin is from the arabic lexicon and has been a common used term in arabic and the quran with that meaning.
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Re: Ameen
by alialiali Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:24 am
some shia's that i know say alhumdlillah rabil almeen after reciting surah fatihah rather then ameen, have you heard of this?
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Re: Ameen
by Silat_warrior110 Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:54 am
Well those shias must have sunni influenced, even muqasirs dont read it. I dont't knw what kind of Shias you are metting, I would keep a eye out on them, soon they will be sayying "Haq Char Yaar"
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Re: Ameen
by Rational Mind Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:37 am
alialiali wrote:some shia's that i know say alhumdlillah rabil almeen after reciting surah fatihah rather then ameen, have you heard of this?
They do after sura e fateha in the first rakat and it is repeating the first ayat of the sura after the person leading the prayers has said it. It is not sayin ameen.
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Re: Ameen
by Silat_warrior110 Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:39 am
أخبرني الشيخ رحمه الله عن أبي القاسم جعفر بن محمد بن يعقوب عن علي بن ابراهيم عن أبيه عن عبدالله بن المغيرة عن جميل بن دراج عن أبي عبدالله (ع) قال: إذا كنت خلف إمام فقرأ الحمد وفرغ من قرائتها فقل أنت الحمد لله رب العالمين ولا تقل آمين.
The Shaykh, Allah have mercy on him, informed me from Abu 'l-Qasim Ja`far b. Muhammad b. Ya`qub from `Ali b. Ibrahim from his father from `Abdullah b. Mughira from Jamil b. Durraj from Abu `Abdillah
. He said: When you are behind an imam and he has recited al-Hamd, and finished its recitation, then you say "al-hamdu lillahi rabbi 'l-`alimeen", and do not say "ameen."
I hope that helps
The Shaykh, Allah have mercy on him, informed me from Abu 'l-Qasim Ja`far b. Muhammad b. Ya`qub from `Ali b. Ibrahim from his father from `Abdullah b. Mughira from Jamil b. Durraj from Abu `Abdillah
. He said: When you are behind an imam and he has recited al-Hamd, and finished its recitation, then you say "al-hamdu lillahi rabbi 'l-`alimeen", and do not say "ameen."I hope that helps
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Re: Ameen
by MoulaKaram Sat Jun 12, 2010 7:06 pm
hahahahahahahahahaha
ok now that was just too darn funny, for real silat warrior, you start out saying you should watch out for anyone who says this then you go and find the hadith (off another site same discussion) and provide us proof it should/ could be said....
so what? are we supposed to 'watch out' for anyone who follows hadith e aimmah asws?
lol, you kill me
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ok now that was just too darn funny, for real silat warrior, you start out saying you should watch out for anyone who says this then you go and find the hadith (off another site same discussion) and provide us proof it should/ could be said....
so what? are we supposed to 'watch out' for anyone who follows hadith e aimmah asws?
lol, you kill me
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Re: Ameen
by Silat_warrior110 Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:05 am
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What I posted?
No where did I say you should recite ameen,
This has not been taken from no discussion, it has been taken from Tashayu.org. We sould watch out for practices which are not part of neither Usooli or the Akhbari school. Unless you have your own school and you consider your self superior to the scholars who have preserved the informtion of the Shia school which has reached us today.
you start out saying you should watch out for anyone who says this then you go and find the hadith (off another site same discussion) and provide us proof it should/ could be said...."
What I posted?
"He said: When you are behind an imam and he has recited al-Hamd, and finished its recitation, then you say "al-hamdu lillahi rabbi 'l-`alimeen", and do not say "ameen.r=#000000]
Well those shias must have sunni influenced, even muqasirs dont read it. I dont't knw what kind of Shias you are metting, I would keep a eye out on them, soon they will be sayying "Haq Char Yaar"
No where did I say you should recite ameen,
This has not been taken from no discussion, it has been taken from Tashayu.org. We sould watch out for practices which are not part of neither Usooli or the Akhbari school. Unless you have your own school and you consider your self superior to the scholars who have preserved the informtion of the Shia school which has reached us today.
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Re: Ameen
by MoulaKaram Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:19 am
one, its on sistanis website to say this and not ameen, (if uyou feel moved to say something) so this really is a muqassir practice, sistani proves it..... its not one D'arcy made up in his new religion over there...... suprising isnt it? (lol)
this is why i was laughing......
I would keep a eye out
this is why i was laughing......
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Re: Ameen
by Silat_warrior110 Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:49 am
I am not concerned with sistanis website, as for a start this is a website and not a discussion room. As I said before this was taken from Tasahyyu.org and I posted a hadith as shown above. The Aima (as) have instructed us not to read ameen, If anyone chooses to follow the sunnies with there custom then good luck with them.
http://www.tashayyu.org/hadiths/salat/amin-after-al-fatiha
http://www.tashayyu.org/hadiths/salat/amin-after-al-fatiha
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